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  How credible is the dating of Daniel?

  by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

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  for example the hairy he-goat is very precise?

  i have read some works on the subject but would like your input..

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  Wasanelder Once

  I've never talked with anyone who dated him but I'm sure he would be a good date.
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  Does God Have A Visible Organization On Earth Today? Second Try!

  by wannabe in

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  2. beliefs

  does god have a visible organization on earth today?

  is it not true, that jehovah had a representative line of kings sitting on his throne at jerusalem, and didn't that line of kings end when king zedekiah was deposed from the throne?

  while it was operational could it not be said jehovah had a visible organization on earth while those kings were ruling?

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  Wasanelder Once

  Yes he does and its called Amway
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  In a judicial hearing does the accused have the right to face his accusers?

  by solomon in

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  if someone says they saw me smoking a cigarette do i have the right to challenge them face to face in the hearing room?.

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  You will never see your accusers and seldom know who they are. Thats the standard no matter what the Society says. I've only known of a few that ever knew who accused them.
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  New Governing Body Member: Hugo Riemer - More WT Revisionist History

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of the wt's recent push to get the r&f "to study and recount the history of the earthly part of jehovahs organization" there is a curious article in the from our archives featurette of the august 15th, 2012 watchtower.

  it offers a highly sanitized version of early jw history.

  but what is particularly strange is this revisionist history re-categorizing of an early bible student/jw, one hugo riemer.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Ray was Faithfully evil Minimus.
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  Do JWs really notice significant doctrinal change?

  by keyser soze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all of these threads about the 'new light' regarding the fds has got me wondering.

  as ex-jws, we've trained ourselves to notice such things.

  we tend to treat them as if they're of great significance, even convey a certain level of optimism that it will actually wake some up, make some think, even lead to some sort of mass revolution within the ranks.. do rank-and-file jws really see any significance, or is it just wishful thinking?

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  When asked who the Faithful and Discrete Slave is, the majority of Witnoids would have said the Governing Body anyway. They don't even know their own docrtines. Hell the doctrines change more often than people change socks.
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  The WTS has said the FDS predates 1919

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  w04 3/1 pp.

  8-12a slave who is both faithful and discreetwho really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics?matthew 24:45.. on tuesday afternoon, nisan 11, 33 c.e., jesus disciples raised a question that has profound meaning for us today.

  they asked him: what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?

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  I am so lost here, this isn't new from what I read. What am I missing? Someone want to clarify it simply for those of us who are a little thick? I do seem to remember an article in the WT in the 80s that spoke of the Governing body as something "new under the sun" in contradiction to the scripture that says there is nothing new under the sun. That article made me step back and question. What's all the hubbubb here?
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  Do you wish that you were never a witness?

  by Iamallcool in

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  Wasanelder Once

  Yep
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  Apostasy Trial - Part 5

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well part 5 was just put up on youtube!

  this is the third 45 minute segment of the 3+ hour meeting.

  topics covered include:.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I am absolutely amazed they listened to you for more than 20 minutes before excusing you to come to a verdict. Interesting.
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  Conversing With a Disfellowshipped Elder

  by Quendi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  Wasanelder Once

  I would definitely put some coleslaw on the agenda. Stay away from the ribs, salad is best.
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  Have you met anyone on the Governing Body?

  by Christ Alone in

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  2. friends

  i posted on another thread about a couple of my experiences of meeting the governing body while i was in brooklyn.

  i wanted to see if anyone else had any experiences along these same lines.

  i met most of the ones that were current during the 2001-2003 years.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Met Gangas in the 80's at Bethel and Barber at a DC. Gangas was losing it and Barber was an ass.